Comments on: Gross Lees vs. Fine Lees http://winemakersacademy.com/gross-vs-fine-lees/ Your Winemaking Educational Source Mon, 25 Jun 2018 06:40:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: michael christian http://winemakersacademy.com/gross-vs-fine-lees/#comment-312 Sun, 15 Jun 2014 13:51:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=1611#comment-312 In reply to Matt Williams.

Hey Matt

Raising the wine on the lees and never racking makes it easier to avoid exposure to oxygen if you want to do fairly reductive wine making. (I do, because I don’t use SO2.) It seems to affect texture a little — smooth mouthfeel. But it won’t really contribute flavors unless extended for more than a year as they do in the bottle in Champagne and Cataluña. After about 18 months, the cell walls of the yeast bodies begin to break down, releasing compounds that contribute the toastiness often observed in good Champagne. I raise my wines on the fine lees in all circumstances — garage wine, commercial wine, and sparkling wine. -michael

p.s. in my opinion, almost every “process” involved in winemaking is superfluous. Sulfiting, destemming, racking, barrel aging, sterilizing equipment, adding yeast, etc. I do none of these. My wines are stable.

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By: Matt Williams http://winemakersacademy.com/gross-vs-fine-lees/#comment-311 Sat, 14 Jun 2014 13:51:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=1611#comment-311 In reply to michael christian.

Michael, you’re the second person in a week to tell me that they don’t rack off of the yeast lees. Have you noticed any flavors contributed by the lees? If so, how long does it take for the wine to pick up those flavors? I’ve got to try this method!

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By: michael christian http://winemakersacademy.com/gross-vs-fine-lees/#comment-310 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 20:38:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=1611#comment-310 In reply to Matt Williams.

Hi Matt
I’ve tried it (for over a year once) but got some off flavors and smells. I do leave all my wines of the fine lees until bottling. Never rack.

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By: Matt Williams http://winemakersacademy.com/gross-vs-fine-lees/#comment-309 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:41:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=1611#comment-309 In reply to michael christian.

I’ve heard of this Michael. The Georgians have an incredibly interesting method for making wine. One that I need to learn more about myself. From the clay post burried in the ground to the lees that you mention here. Thank you for sharing!

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By: michael christian http://winemakersacademy.com/gross-vs-fine-lees/#comment-308 Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:55:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=1611#comment-308 The Georgians leave their wine on the gross lees forever.

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