Comments on: David’s Blackberry Port https://winemakersacademy.com/davids-blackberry-port/ Your Winemaking Educational Source Mon, 25 Jun 2018 06:35:46 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: Myles https://winemakersacademy.com/davids-blackberry-port/#comment-346 Tue, 22 Apr 2014 07:27:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=2123#comment-346 In reply to Matt Williams.

Thanks Matt – you are a gent. Points taken.
But just to confirm no water is added to the blackberries before the yeast is pitched.
All the best.

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By: Matt Williams https://winemakersacademy.com/davids-blackberry-port/#comment-345 Sun, 20 Apr 2014 13:47:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=2123#comment-345 In reply to Skip O’Neill.

Please let us know how it turns out Skip!

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By: Matt Williams https://winemakersacademy.com/davids-blackberry-port/#comment-344 Sun, 20 Apr 2014 13:45:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=2123#comment-344 In reply to Myles.

Hi Myles, here are my thoughts on your questions:

1 – the 3lbs of sugar is to raise the sugar level of the must sufficiently enough to produce a finished wine with enough alcohol. David mentions that after the wine is finished you may need more sugar to sweeten to your liking.

2 – I did some research on this and found that blackberries have roughly 4.88 grams of sugar per 100 grams of fruit. Table grapes have 16.25 grams of sugar per 100 grams of fruit. Wine making grapes typically have much more sugar than table grapes so the 3lbs of sugar would be needed to make a proper blackberry wine before adding the brandy.

3 – To guard against wild yeast fermentation you could crush / press the fruit, treat it with potassium metabisulfite, and pitch your yeast 24 hours later. That’s typically what’s done with wine grapes as well.

With 7kg of blackberries you could expect to get 1.03 gallons (3.9 liters) of juice. The pint of brandy will add another 0.5 liters so you would be good with a 5 liter container.

Topping up with marbles is certainly doable. Just be careful of dropping them into the carboy. I’ve heard of people doing this and they wound up cracking the bottom of their carboy. I’d consider using a mesh bag to hold the marbles.

Your other option would be to use an inert gas such as Private Preserve to displace the oxygen. Just purge the head space and seal the carboy up with an airlock. Solid plugs can lead to trouble if anything is going on in the wine still or if there are temperature changes.

Great questions Myles!

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By: Matt Williams https://winemakersacademy.com/davids-blackberry-port/#comment-343 Sun, 20 Apr 2014 13:29:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=2123#comment-343 In reply to j2d2.

For the most part the sugar levels are going to be to taste. If you put more sugar in the must to produce a higher alcohol finished wine you can use a less potent brandy to get to 20% ABV. Back sweetening is of course to suite your own palate.

David doesn’t use acid blend but you could determine if your blackberries could use an acid boost by testing the titratable acidity. I don’t really have a good idea of what the acidity of a blackberry is unfortunately.

Lastly, sulfites levels will depend on the pH of your finished port. I would stick to the suggested normal sulfite levels outlined in this article: Adding Potassium Metabisulfite to Wine. The dose of brandy will help with stability though as this was the purpose of adding brandy to wine in the first place. It stabilized the wine so it could be stored in barrels in the bottom of a sailing ship to go back to Europe.

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By: Matt Williams https://winemakersacademy.com/davids-blackberry-port/#comment-342 Sun, 20 Apr 2014 13:17:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=2123#comment-342 In reply to Adam Beshara.

Adam, I ran some numbers using the Pearson Square and found the ratio of brandy to wine to be about right. Of course it depends on the alcohol content (ABV) of both the blackberry wine and the brandy. Here are two examples.

If the wine is 17% ABV you’ll need a pint of 40% ABV brandy to get to a 20% ABV port. If the wine finishes at 15% ABV then you’ll need a pint of brandy at 55% ABV. Brandy alcohol content can range from 35-60% ABV so these numbers are right in there.

I hope this helps!

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By: Myles https://winemakersacademy.com/davids-blackberry-port/#comment-341 Sun, 20 Apr 2014 09:24:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=2123#comment-341 Great recipe, I have it in the autumn calendar. A few questions / clarifications if I may
1 There is no water added at start – just lump in blackberries and throw on the started yeast.
2 Is the suggested sugar detailed for sweetening only ie the backberrys contain enough sugar to ferment themselves.
3 If using bush picked blackberries how do you ensure a wild yeast dosent take over.
Also if I started with 7kgs of blackberrys, typically what volume of liquid would I be placing in a carboy.
Lastly you could use sterilised marbles to top up without resorting to buying the stuff you are trying to make.

Thank you again for sharing this recipe.

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By: j2d2 https://winemakersacademy.com/davids-blackberry-port/#comment-340 Sat, 19 Apr 2014 00:10:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=2123#comment-340 I’d like to try this. But, I’d like to adjust before fermentation. Do you have any sugar, acid or sulfite figures?

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By: Skip O'Neill https://winemakersacademy.com/davids-blackberry-port/#comment-339 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 12:54:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=2123#comment-339 My second favorite fruit (behind the grape) is the wild blackberry. I will try making the wine this summer. Thanks David!

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By: Adam Beshara https://winemakersacademy.com/davids-blackberry-port/#comment-338 Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:56:00 +0000 http://winemakersacademy.org/?p=2123#comment-338 Whoa! A pint of Brandy per gallon! So that turns into a gallon and a half of Brandy in a 6 gallon batch of port. That seems like a lot to me but I’ve never tried it. Can anyone confirm that amount?
Oh, and thanks for sharing the recipe David. It sounds great!

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